Dungeons & Dragons players are largely underwhelmed by changes to the Ranger class announced for the upcoming Core Rulebook revision, especially as other classes receive more significant improvements.

At the time, players were critical of the changes. But that frustration has only worsened following deep dives on thenew Monkand Sorcerer classes that have some wondering ifD&D‘s designers are purposely sabotaging the Ranger.

The Ranger has long been among the game’s least popular classes, but despite the designers completely overhauling it to the point where lead rules designer Jeremy Crawford calls it “a brand new class,” players aren’t impressed.

In a Reddit post titled “Is there a rule a WoTC that Rangers must always be at a disadvantage to other classes?” one playersharedtheir disappointment with the new Ranger.

The main criticisms of the Ranger involve changes to the spell Hunter’s Mark and the lack of powerful late-game options compared to other classes.

While the designers havesaidthe new rulebook “strengthens the Ranger class’s relationship with its trademark spell, Hunter’s Mark,” the fact that it now requires concentration has proven controversial.

Many Ranger spells also depend on the concentration mechanic, so the change means players will have to choose between using this core class feature and casting other spells.

Players have also slammed the class’ level 20 ability, which pretty much amounts to a +2 to damage. That’s led to plenty of comments mocking the change, with one YouTube comment reading “Capstone for Ranger: +2 damage, meanwhile wizards are a fireball machine gun…”

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The changes to Ranger seem especially lackluster to many players considering changes to other classes like the Monk (which also received a complete overhaul) andSorcerer– both of which are getting expanded access to their key class resources and abilities.

As they put it, “Oh not enough Ki points. No big deal we keep giving you more. Sorcerer points got you down. Don’t worry we will let you do a ton of stuff that use to cost points for free.”

Noelle Corbett was a Senior Writer on Dexerto’s US team. She is a Gaming expert, covering Pokemon, Baldur’s Gate, Dungeons & Dragons, and RPGs. She also has bylines at CBR.